NEW YORK -- If it seems like lefthander J.A. Happ (left forearm strain) has been taking merely baby steps toward a return to the Phillies' rotation, well, you're not alone.

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said before Wednesday's game Happ is nowhere near being ready.

"It's going to take him a while to get going again," Amaro said. "We have to try to get him over the hump of not having any soreness any more. We don't have any timetable for Happ."

Amaro did say Happ could begin facing live hitters either at the end of this week or beginning of next week. He has been on the disabled list since April 13.

Pitching coach Rich Dubee said Happ would throw another bullpen session Thursday in Clearwater, Fla. He has yet to throw his cutter on the mound or even on flat ground. He threw change-ups for the first time in a bullpen session on Monday.
As for closer Brad Lidge (right elbow inflammation), Amaro and Dubee both said they are pleased with his progress. Lidge could return next week in Atlanta.
"We’ll see," Amaro said. "That would be fine with me."