A night after Phillies lefthander Cliff Lee suggested the team needed to show more pride, manager Charlie Manuel said the team has been proud but not productive enough.

The Phillies lost two games in Cleveland by a combined 20-2 score. Lee was the losing pitcher in Wednesday's 6-0 defeat.

Afterward, Lee talked about how the Phillies were pummeled in both games.

"We have to have a little more pride than that and figure out a way to at least get back into the game and make it somewhat competitive," Lee said.

Before Thursday's game with the Miami Marlins at Citizens Bank Park, Manuel addressed Lee's comments with some of his own.

"To me, what he meant was we need to get after it more and do better," Manuel said.

Asked whether he agreed with Lee, Manuel said when a team is losing, things always look bad.

"Sometimes when you don't hit, you look lethargic and look kind of maybe dead or something," said Manuel, whose team entered Thursday 12-16. "That is not necessarily the case.

"We definitely have the effort there. If you come over before the game and see us and how we approach it, yes, it is there. I think when you don't hit and score runs or you don't pitch, you don't look good."

Revere out

John Mayberry Jr. started in center field for Ben Revere, who suffered a jammed right ring finger in Wednesday's loss. Revere hurt the finger sliding into second base in the third inning. He didn't come out of the game.

"With the adrenaline, I was able to continue," he said.

Revere said X-rays were negative, and he was waiting for the swelling to go down. He said he hoped not to miss much time.

Ruiz rests

Carlos Ruiz, who returned Sunday from his 25-game suspension for using Adderall, wasn't in the starting lineup. Erik Kratz was the starting catcher.

Ruiz had played Sunday and, after the Phillies had an off-day, caught both games in Cleveland. He was 1 for 12 in his first three games with a double. Since he missed so much time, Manuel wants to give Ruiz some early breathers.

"If we rest him [Thursday], we may be able to go through Sunday," Manuel said. "I always give my catchers rest along the way."

Back to Cleveland

Outfielder Ezequiel Carrera, who was designated for assignment when the Phillies activated Delmon Young on Tuesday from the disabled list, was claimed off waivers on Thursday by Cleveland.

The Phillies originally had claimed Carrera off waivers on April 2 from Cleveland. He went 1 for 13 in his brief time with the Phillies.