What we're talking about following the Eagles' 13-9 loss to the Oakland Raiders.

The sacks: Yes, left tackle Jason Peters went down early with a knee injury and Andy Reid had to put green second-year man King Dunlap in front of All-Pro Richard Seymour. Still, giving up six sacks to a team that had a total of nine in the first five games is inexcusable.

Trotter's problems: The middle linebacker's lack of speed hurt the Eagles badly. The Raiders threw at him when he was on the field and he got beat by tight end Zach Miller on his 86-yard touchdown catch-and-run. The Eagles seldom used him after that until late in the game when Omar Gaither got hurt. And he got beat then on a back-breaking pass to running back Gary Russell.

Celek's tough day: Tight end Brent Celek had four catches for 75 yards, but the normally sure-handed receiver also had a pair of costly drops and got beat for a sack.

Where was Vick? On a day when nothing else was really working, Andy Reid didn't bother to go with Vick or the Wildcat much. Vick was on the field for just two plays. Lost 4 yards on an end-around.

The run-pass issue: Again. Despite the fact that this never was more than a seven-point game, the Eagles ran the ball just 14 times and threw it 46 times. Running backs Brian Westbrook and LeSean McCoy had just 11 combined rushing attempts.