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Schilling Throws WIP-AM Under the Bus

It's been five years since Curt Schilling pitched for Philadelphia. Hard to believe he can still hate WIP-AM that much.

"Schilling on Philly Chumps" is the headline that the Boston Dirt Dogs blog wrote after the star hurler's regular Tuesday morning call to the Dennis and Callahan show on Boston's WEEI-AM.

"They are some of the biggest pieces of trash," Schilling said of the popular Philadelphia radio station hosts. "To say they are somehow part of sports is giving them way too much credit."

The rehabbing Red Sox ace was just warming up. Listen here starting at minute 9.

"These guys were some of the worst people, and are some of the worst people I've ever met in my life. They have no business being in sports. They have a sports station that tries to be what 'EEI is, and they suck."

He singled out WIP personalities Angelo Cataldi, Howard Eskin and Glen Macnow. "These guys have as much to do with sports as Mother Theresa." He said he was referring in particular to the Philadelphia radio station's treatment of his friend Terry Francona, the Red Sox skipper who used to coach the Phillies.

"It wasn't kind of off-the-cuff, funny criticism. It was bad stuff, horrible stuff." Schilling complained how Cataldi announced he would shoot himself in the head of Francona won the World Series. "I know that they would have sold tickets for that."

"Just gutless people...," he concluded. "They don't talk sports and they don't know sports." Cataldi and Macnow used to be Inquirer sportswriters.

Schilling, the spotlight-grabber who was famously called a horse's ass by Phillies GM Ed Wade, went on to say the Philadelphia fans made it "a phenomenal sports town." He was rarely booed here, he said. "They wanted effort and they wanted passion and they wanted you to be good."

Francona, he said, started off in the hole since fans wanted Larry Bowa, not him, as coach.

He said the Phillies will have to over-pay to sign a free agent comfortable pitching in Citizens Bank Park, unless they deal for a sinkerballer. "Free agents want to go to one of the places where they feel comfortable playing, and that is not one of them."

The blogger Jeffrey Martin at Minutae has weighed in on this post this morning. He doesn't think Schilling should have lumping Macnow with Cataldi and Eskin:

Glen taught me in a journalism class, and I know him to be one of the most intelligent, kind, and real people in Philadelphia media. Unlike Howard and Ange, Glen doesn't take on a false personality to fit his listeners. He gives his callers time to talk, listens to most of them closely and responds thoughtfully. Many of the other hosts on WIP do the same. Just because the shows that bookend the normal working day are headed by jerks, it doesn't mean the station is a waste.

Glen Macnow sent an email this afternoon, which I quote:

I don't mind being criticized, by Schilling or anyone else. That's
part of the business.
Curt, however, didn't seem to think I was a horrible human being when he asked me to emcee his charity golf tournament two winters ago. Nor, I'm sure did he mind what I wrote about him in "The great Philadelphia Sports Debate," which I co-authored with Angelo Cataldi. His anger entirely stems from what Angelo, Howard and I have said about Terry Francona.

He then sent over a selection from the book, which I am posting as well:

Chapter 2

Yep, you couldn't find a more self-serving guy.

Angelo says: As soon as I wipe away the tears, I'll try the impossible here and give a more accurate portrait of the most self-serving, selfish, self-absorbed player in baseball history.

George Banks
Posted 06/30/2005 07:45:27 AM
Curt is not that far off base.  He gets a little carried away just like Cataldiand Eskin do, but he is on the mark when he says that those guys don't know what they are talking about, and only cause trouble.  I stopped listening to that station all together several months ago becasue I got tired of listening to all the ranting and raving.  Catladi and Eskin, especially, think they are the story and not the teams and players.  they need a little humble pie! 
Undertoad
Posted 06/30/2005 07:55:53 AM
Macnow isn't so bad.

It's sad because some of the most compelling radio I've ever heard was when Schill called the morning show the morning after pitching in the world series.  He was so jazzed about it he stayed up all night and just wanted to talk about it.  It's moments like that which make sports more real, that bring the drama and humanity to it.  
That Dude from Philly
Posted 06/30/2005 08:15:48 AM
I HATE Angelo Cataldi.  I hate even more his 'fans', they dont even realize he is really from New England and isnt a REAL Philly fan.
Jeff
Posted 06/30/2005 08:30:32 AM
Thanks for breaking the story here. I reacted on my website today. I don't really think that you can judge WIP based on the two shows that begin and end the workday. Macnow is one of the most considerate and intelligent hosts on the station, and there are more like him than there are like Cataldi and Eskin. I don't listen as often as I used to, for a lot of the reasons that Schilling implies here, but it isn't all that bad.
Another Jeff
Posted 06/30/2005 09:54:21 AM
Good for Schill!!  I usually only listen to WIP on the weekend (because that's the only time the station has people that actually know sports, like Dick Jerardi and Jack McCaffrey) and the weekday hosts all blow, but I'll have to tune in today.  All those guys, especially Cataldi, have no problem calling people idiots and losers and all that, but when someone turns the tables, they whine like the thin-skinned little punks they are.  I'll bet they're going nuts.

And I have to disagree a little bit with Jeff from Minutae about Macnow.  He's nowhere close to Eskin and Cataldi on the Jerk Scale, but as far as him being courteous, he's courteous as long as people are agreeing with him.  He gets unbelievably defensive when someone proves him wrong or even just disagrees.  I remember before the '99 draft he was big on the Ricky Williams bandwagon and he was saying how much he loved Ricky Williams and he's been a fan since he was a freshman and all that, and someone called him and asked a simple question that someone who is claiming to have been a fan of the guy since he was a freshman would have no trouble knowing, and Macnow didn't know and he then freaked out on the guy and hung up on him.

Most of Macnow's "knowledge" regarding football just comes from what Ray Didinger tells him.


RS
Posted 06/30/2005 11:01:13 AM
I've already done my ranting on Eskin and Cataldi -- they're douchebags.  I never had a problem with Macnow's radio work, although I can understand how he might be grating.

As for Schilling, he's a media whore of an entirely different variety.  He's a great pitcher and a tremendous self-promoter who seeks out cameras and microphones in the same way a stripper can sniff out a $1 bill.
Dave
Posted 06/30/2005 11:04:13 AM
I, like many others, used to be a huge Schilling fan. His outspokeness was refreshing, especially with a tight-lipped, out-of-touch organization like the Phillies. 
Then, last October, blue-collar, bloody ankled, Curt Schilling campaigns for George W. Bush. What a joke! You know, he disliked the Phillies for being a horrible organization that never admitted it mistakes and for years on end repeated the same excuses like "he was pitching without his best stuff". And then, to support a bunch of pathetic Chicken Hawks- how sad. I've lost all respect for him.
 Bill Maher recently joked that people like Curt Schilling, who "support the troops" should head over to Iraq themselves. Curt blasts a solid journalist like Glen for "not really being a part of sports." I guess Curt, because he got a boo-boo in a baseball game seems to fancy himself a tough-guy soldier. Stop talking, Curt. You just aren't credible anymore.
Mike
Posted 06/30/2005 02:11:35 PM
Curt Curt Curt... foot always in mouth... it's easy to attack Cataldi... but what he does is schtick.  Eskin... love him or hate him... knows sports.  And he gets inside stories, because he ingratiates himself to the right people.  But to call out Macnow is plain wrong.

I loved Curt as a player.  And watching him pour champagne twice, hurts every single Phillies Red Blood Cell in my body.  

But Curt is just a self promoter.  Plain and Simple.

Still wish he was anchoring this staff though. :)

Adam
Posted 06/30/2005 03:11:08 PM
Howard Eskin is a gossip columnist who happens to traffic in sports.   The primary determinant of his opinions is which athlete-coach sources are friendly to him, nothing more.

You know what I'd like to see on WIP?  A culturally liberal, stats-based analyst who'd drive a lot of the rabble crazy.
Swifty
Posted 06/30/2005 03:14:33 PM
When Schilling listens to WIP, does he have a towell draped over his head, or does he only do that to embarrass and humiliate a teammate?
Lance
Posted 06/30/2005 05:12:19 PM
Now that the Phillies have lost five consecutive series' isn't it time to start focusing on the manager.  Sure you cannot expect to keep winning 12 out of 13, but that series showed how good they can be, the manager's job is to maximize the talent he has, he has not.  And heresy of all heresies, Thome should sit down a couple of games, he would have to go on an absolute tear just to get his batting average above his weight.  Rollins should not lead off, Padilla should not start, Howard is being wasted, the starting rotation needs a significant injection.  And I could go on....and on...and on.
Jeff
Posted 06/30/2005 05:20:23 PM
Interesting exchange from Cataldi and Macnow's book.  So, you have a carpetbagger from Providence and a carpetbagger from upstate NY arguing about what Philadelphians think.

And just when i thought it was impossible to think Cataldi was a bigger piece of scum than i already do, i read his comment mocking Curt Schilling's charity work.

This, even though almost every act of charity Cataldi does on WIP  he does purely for publicity (it's a known fact that management MAKES  him do it, then he pats himself on the back on the air).

Hell, even Cataldi's own charity, he blew off on  his wife (that would be his second wife.  He dumped his first wife that stood by him when he was making a reporters salary for some bimbo once he started making a buck).
That Dude from Philly
Posted 06/30/2005 05:47:16 PM
"Then, last October, blue-collar, bloody ankled, Curt Schilling campaigns for George W. Bush."

What does that have to do with anything?  do you hate all republicans?  You must be a Deaniac.
Dave
Posted 06/30/2005 06:40:58 PM
Curt Schilling campaigning for Bush reveals his true character. For someone with a blue-collar image to publicly support someone like George Bush is just inherently wrong. I'm not a huge Dean fan, but I am disappointed that people like you are not more outraged a war founded on misinformation and a refusal to admit mistakes. 
If you plan on responding with illogical crap like "we're fighting them there so we don't fight them there" or "we're bringing democracy to the region" don't bother. I expected more from Curt and I think his political views are a perfectly legit reason to dislike him. 
That being said, of course I wish Eddie had signed him last year.
Ryan
Posted 06/30/2005 07:30:20 PM
Although I am extremely anti-Bush, I don't dislike someone like Schilling for campaigning for a candidate because he believes in the platform.  That being said, I think his status as a Republican is very telling and points back to Cataldi's point that Schilling is self-serving.  Schill used to be blue collar, he used to be working class, but now he makes millions of dollars.  I would bet money that the reason that Schill supports Bush and the Republican party is not for religious or other ideological reasons, but rather so he can keep a larger piece of his monetary pie.
John
Posted 06/30/2005 08:00:41 PM
Poster Dave is an idiot.
Chris
Posted 06/30/2005 08:51:05 PM
The fact that Schilling is a Republican is as relevant as saying "He likes cheesesteaks".  In other words, it doesn't mean a damn thing.  However, I do believe that in attacking Macnow, he is out of bounds.  I agree that Eskin is a self serving, self promoting first rate horse's ass.  Angelo is not that far behind him.  However, I think Macnow is the best host on WIP.  I don't always agree with Glenn, however, his points are generally well thought and relevant.  

I am a Schilling Fan.  He is a tough-nosed athlete, who demands success from those around him.  However, he missed the point on this one, because he wanted to defend Francona, who is an idiot.  There is only one baseball manager who is a bigger fool than him, and I believe he was tossed in the second inning today against the Mets.
Vinny
Posted 06/30/2005 10:28:47 PM
Schill was wrong about Macknow. He actually is one of the few gentlemen on the station. Angelo is all about ratings and doing what it takes to get people talking, so he will actually be happy that Schill is bringing attention to the show. It's all about marketing. Don't you think it's odd that Schill blasts WIP less than 10 days after WIP is streaming on the web? It's all about promotion and Schill is just helping his buddies in Philly get some ratings. Eskin is a joke. He uses the words "joke" and "fraud" religiously and they best describe him. He is a wannabe pimp and tries to act like he is the definition of cool. He chides others for not losing weight but his fake beard makes and his fur coat make him look like the creepy Burger King from the commercials. He knows nothing about sports. If you ask a question about any other sports story or athlete outside of Philly, Howard will give you the "What do I care about Roesthlisberger for??" And promptly hang up on you because he doesn't do his homework outside of his little Eagle connections.
Harris Brody
Posted 06/30/2005 11:41:08 PM
Shilling is being way too protective of the worlds luckiest (and lousy) manager, Terry Francoma.  Basically, I see him being as much as a jerk as Cataldi and Eskin; all three are equally and totally self-promoting. 

However, Schillings attack on Macnow is out of bounds as I think Glen is a decent guy who cares about the fans. And, Glen never showed up a teammate the way Schilling did with the towel act on the bench.  
Scott Time
Posted 07/01/2005 12:00:54 AM
First off Schilling does come off as a pompous ass to me.  Secondly if he supported Bush, it proves he's dumb.  Thirdly if he's a big crybaby who can't handle the press, that's 3 strikes, he's out.

Cataldi is one of the greatest sports people, one of the most entertaining voices period I've ever heard on radio.  We can thank our lucky stars somebody has the balls to lay it on the line every day like he does.  Eskin, while I don't like him quite as much still puts on a rockin' drive-time show.  waah waah poor Curt Schilling.
Joe
Posted 07/01/2005 12:36:30 AM
Cataldi=idiot
Eskin=jackass, but knows sports
Macnow=intelligent and a nice guy most of the time (though i have heard times when he was a bit of a jackass)

Curt has always annoyed me.  He's a crybaby who complains and moans when he disagrees with something.  He should just shut up and do what he is great at.
Ed Birchler
Posted 07/01/2005 07:47:59 AM
Shilling is 100% correct.....Cataldi & Eskin, though appearing to be enemies, just try to ruin sports for the average fan. These guys & other media types criticize and ridicule athletes, managers, coaches, yet, they have never put on a jock strap in anger....
Give me a break.....we're talking about baseball!!!! which we played for hours as kid, and loved the players, even if they were in last place....The media just wants to stir things up and turn the fans away, and unfortunately, there are too many fans that listen and believe the BS...
Now, Kenny Rogers is in trouble, and this will be blown out of proportion by the media....and what he did was wrong, but, if he tells the cameras to get out of his face, they should comply, or suffer the consequences. 
If we had no WIP, DNL, and many of the media goofs, if wouldn't bother me a bit...I watch the games, I see what happens, and I don't need some yahoo who never picked up a bat or put on a helmet to tell me what happened in the game and why they won or lost.....Thank You.....
Bill V
Posted 07/01/2005 08:30:23 AM
Cataldi is a fraud who knows nothing about sports.  He rants and raves like a lunatic.

Macnow, I find personally annoying but not nearly as offensive as Eskin or Cataldi.

Eskin is the biggest joke of them all, I remember someone suggesting last winter that the Eagles should draft Michigan WR Braylon Edwards...Eskin replied, "What do they need a quarterback for, you nitwit!"

It is funny that "Philadelphia's" sports talk is dominated by two transplants from another state and the Burger King of Bling.

Thank god for the weekend crew on that station...Dick Jerardi, Don McKee, Ray Didinger...even Mark Eckell, Rueben Frank, etc. are a million times better then the morning crew and Eskin......
Jim Mc Gonigle
Posted 07/01/2005 09:59:50 AM
Angelo is right on the mark. Shilling is the most self centered athlete in the history of sports.  He is only about himself.  The night he was traded to Arizona he packed his locker and did not say good-bye to any of the players or the coaches.  This I know for a fact, and proves he is only about himself. 
EDDIE WELCH
Posted 07/01/2005 11:08:05 AM
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ESKIN IS THE KING OF BLING!
Dan Murray
Posted 07/01/2005 11:17:56 AM
stop hating on Eskin because he is a styling profiling lexus driving kiss stealing son of a gun! whooooooooooooooo
Geoff
Posted 07/01/2005 11:53:29 AM
Angelo Cataldi is full of horse manure.  His response to Glen Macnow consists entirely of hearsay and opinion, he doesn't even cite any real examples to back his case.  Oooohh, some people in the Phillies organization didn't like him, so that makes him self-serving?  He couldn't watch Mitch Williams throw the ball?  Gee, was he alone there?  I think half of the town couldn't watch; we were so scared of what might happen.  He sees somone promoting himself, most of the rest of us saw someone who wanted to win and couldn't watch Mitch Williams pitch without some amount of horror.

Curt does have a tendency to get carried away at times when speaking to the media.  But that essentially confirms much of what Glen Macnow was saying, that he tends to be too honest and occasionally controversial. Both Howard Eskin and Angelo Cataldi, themselves 2 of the most self-serving, self-promoting, fake sports commentators in this town's history, deserved to be reamed.  What they can't stand is that Schilling speaks the truth about them.  But Glen Macnow is altogether different, and really one of the classiest sports guys around in this town.  I can't help but wonder if Schilling, given time to reflect on his remarks, might take at least his criticism of Macnow back.  
That Dude from Philly
Posted 07/01/2005 12:14:57 PM
"Secondly if he supported Bush, it proves he's dumb"

You guys are really sick of losing arent ya?  sometimes you have to aske yourself, if everyone else is wrong, maybe im not right.
Gee
Posted 07/01/2005 12:38:38 PM
Poster Geoff said it all.  I'm not so hot on Schill but I'm a fan that doesn't care about most of the things everyone is crying about.  I focus on what he does between the lines.

WIP, I stopped listening so I could enjoy sports again.
Domenic
Posted 07/01/2005 12:43:30 PM
I think the Dude from Philly has smoked a couple of funny cigarettes before Live 8 has even started with his dislike of Curt Schilling because of his support for President Bush. Fighting jihadists and terrorists on their turf doesn't stop us from fighting them on our streets? That premise carries no water with you? You're dumber than you write or sound.   
All you need to know about Cataldi is manifested in his overt dislike of Donovan McNabb because #5 has thrown it in his face by never appearing on his show. The guy is a phony.
Eskin is lacking in knowledge of almost every other subject other than what he knows about the Eagles and Sixers. Or rather, what Andy Reid tells him and what Larry Brown used to him......Dude from Philly, you are all wet, my man....
Johnny Griswold
Posted 07/01/2005 02:26:22 PM
I really miss listening to WIP now that I live out here in San Diego. Glen Macnow was absolutely my favorite host. I think Shilling is way off base on this one.
Eskin is an A-hole and Cataldi is just in it for the laugh and shock value with his opinions. 
Howard
Posted 07/01/2005 02:42:02 PM
Hey folks, Tito Francona has a ring, remember? As good as a team as the Red Sox are, no team runs on auto-pilot, the manager makes gameday personel decisions, pitching changes etc. and Francona did a good job of steering the ship all the way to the Championship.
ed
Posted 07/01/2005 03:40:42 PM
Most of what comes out of Angelo's mouth is melodramatic and laughable (that's why people listen) but his thoughts on Schilling are DEAD ON.  Ask his teammates in Arizona, sure they loved the fact that he won but that was the only reason they put up with him in the clubhouse.  Ask Randy Johnson, who clearly couldn't stand Schilling.  Ask Pedro Gomez, who wrote about the chilly relationship the two pitchers had (he was also quoted in an article in The New York Times Magazine in 2002)and was scolded by a screaming Schilling in the Arizona clubhouse in front of reporters and teammates (Pedro was dead on).

Ask anyone who works for the Phillies.  I have, and you wouldn't believe some of the things people said.  

Schilling ripped WIP for the way that they treated Francona while he was in town, well if you listened to WEEI last summer they destroyed Francona, up until the point the Sox started winning.  And what about the fact that Schilling called EEI to rip one of the hosts for reporting about a supposed rift between Schilling and Pedro.  I wonder if St. Curt has anything to do with Pedro leaving a town that he loved playing in?

Give Schilling credit for raising money for charity, but believe me Angelo is dead on in his assesment, if he wasn't the center of attention he wouldn't do it.  Its just too bad that more writers don't expose him for the fraud he is.

That being said, I love listening to Glen Macnow, especially Saturdays with Ray Didinger,
c
Posted 07/01/2005 04:04:41 PM
Schilling is just one in a long line of jackasses residing in Baseball. Francona sucked as a manager. I agree with the latter... a self serving jerk!!!
Fredd
Posted 07/01/2005 04:11:57 PM
You dont have to play a sport to know a sport. Only a fool like Schilling would think like that. I'm sooooo tired of hearing about the 30 or so clowns who booed the SELECTION of Mcnab. heck, I could coach that Redsox team, both Tito and Schill got lucky the Yanks choked. The sox won in spite of Francona. Schil is a fraud and a two faced jerk.
Jeff
Posted 07/01/2005 04:54:43 PM
Fredd is obviously one of those nitwits who doesn't have an opinion on anything until Angelo tells him what to think.

I can't believe there are still people stupid enough to try and pull that "we were booing the pick, not Donovan".  He WAS the pick, so you're full of crap.

Are you sure you're not the idiot that paints his face and walks around in shoulder pads?
Rob Walker
Posted 07/01/2005 07:16:39 PM
WHAT A JOKE. Athletes and "entertainers" calling each other selfish and self-centered. Claiming others are just looking for "face time"! Shilling is a pompass A*#, he spent so much time on W.I.P. that he has NO credibilty in his criticizing of the station now. Angelo has to have his show named after him, his own web site and t.v. shows, yeah he's a team player who should criticize Shilling. Eskin is and has always been one of the phoniest, flip flop artists to ever grace our citys' airwaves. He changes his opinion to suit the ratings and guests of the moment, like a politician, that is why he has lasted so long. Glen, one heck of a nice guy, but if he honestly believes Curt Shilling is a nice guy who cares about anyone but himself, then maybe he became too friendly with Curt to be objective. Even I am a fraud because I am taking the time to write this posting so people will read it, but why should anyone care about my opinion. Well, look at the bright side, at least we took our minds off the Phils for a couple of minutes. God Bless our troops. 
Matt
Posted 07/04/2005 09:38:09 AM
Schilling is a self-promoter, but I have always liked the fact that he does talk radio and jumps on fan message boards to talk to the fans.

But these comments are ridiculous, and stink of sour grapes.  Glenn Macnow is one of the best hosts on WIP, someone who always shows respect to the fans who call in to talk to him.

While Cataldi's "shoot myself in the head" line was not something I'd like to see on posters advertising our city, I wish that Schilling had kept his own mouth in check on this one.