Will Smith and son, Jaden, talk about fame and patterns, but NOT the Kardashians

Will Smith's Fresh Prince Days are long behind him. Sure, occassionally he'll reprise his role just long enough to rap the theme song and get everyone to do the Carlton dance. But, most of the time, he's too busy being the biggest leading man in Hollywood and helping his son navigate his adolescent fame to

Will and Jaden recently spoke with New York Magazine while plugging their forthcoming film After Earth. The M. Night Shyamalan film is a father-son story that parallels the lives and dynamic Will and his son are experiencing in real life.

They talked about patterns:

Do you see patterns too, Jaden?
Jaden: I think that there is that special equation for everything, but I don't think our mathematics have evolved enough for us to even—I think there's, like, a whole new mathematics that we'd have to learn to get that equation.
Will: I agree with that.
Jaden: It's beyond mathematical. It's, like, multidimensional mathematical, if you can sort of understand what I'm saying.

They started to talk about baptism and slavery:

You were baptized.
Will: Baptized. Went to a Catholic school. Lived in a Jewish neighborhood.
My mother worked on the school board, so she was very serious about education, and my grandmother was in the church. So there was a huge amount of discipline, and I'm trying to maintain some of the old ideals, minus the ownership. We don't own our children, you know. They own themselves. Not to go too far into that, talking about slavery concepts and how the black community is carrying those …
Jaden: If we started going down that road, Mommy would, like, burst into this room.

They talked about fame (but, not the Kardashians):

Jaden, how does it feel to be famous?
Jaden: I think it's fun, except when people make up stuff about you. Then it's not so much fun. But besides that, I enjoy it.

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