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What they’re saying about the Phillies: Rob Thomson’s job security, Alec Bohm on the trade block, and more

As the Phillies' struggles mount, so does the pressure on Rob Thomson to turn things around. Here’s a look at what some national media are saying about the team.

Phillies manager Rob Thomson (left) has a proven manager working alongside him in bench coach Don Mattingly.
Phillies manager Rob Thomson (left) has a proven manager working alongside him in bench coach Don Mattingly. Read moreJose F. Moreno / Staff Photographer

The Phillies are struggling. Not quite as badly as the New York Mets, but it’s getting pretty ugly.

In fourth place in the National League East at 8-13 with only the Mets (7-15) behind them, the Phillies were swept by the Atlanta Braves at home this weekend and have lost five straight going into Monday’s game against the Cubs.

Is it time to panic? Probably not. It’s still early and it’s not like they’ve lost 11 straight — yes, that’s another shot at the Mets — but there are certainly reasons for concern. However, manager Rob Thomson is confident they can turn it around.

“We’re disappointed, we’re frustrated,” Thomson said after Sunday’s loss. “I know they’re trying hard, sometimes trying too hard. I think guys are upset. We’re off to a slow start here, but it’s going to get better.”

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Before this weekend’s debacle at Citizens Bank Park, Inquirer beat writers Scott Lauber and Lochlahn March took a look at some of the Phillies’ issues and what’s really worth (and not worth) agonizing over.

But Philly sports fans are not patient. And while the Sixers and Flyers are taking some of the focus away from the slumping Phillies, that time will eventually end. Can the Phillies right the ship before fans begin calling for Thomson’s job? Is it too late? What will they do at the trade deadline? Here’s a look at what some national media outlets are saying about the team.

Thomson on the hot seat?

Whenever a team with a payroll as large — and expectations as high — as the Phillies starts off slowly, it immediately finds itself under a microscope, from the fans all the way up to ownership. In his latest column for The Athletic, longtime baseball insider Ken Rosenthal spent considerable time discussing the Phillies’ struggles and whether that will lead to Thomson losing his job, despite the team making the playoffs in each of his four seasons at the helm and winning back-to-back division titles.

Here are three quick takeaways from Rosenthal’s story as it relates to Thomson …

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An early change has worked in the past

One reason the Phillies could be more likely to make this change is that they’ve had recent success with a similar move, when they fired Joe Girardi just 51 games into the 2022 season. Thomson helped lead the Phillies to a World Series berth that year. Twenty years earlier, the man now in charge of the Phillies, president Dave Dombrowski, was behind one of the earliest managerial firings in MLB history:

The two earliest firings in major-league history occurred six games into the season — in 1988, when the Orioles dumped Cal Ripken Sr., and 2002, when the Detroit Tigers replaced Phil Garner and GM Randy Smith. The latter moves were orchestrated by none other than current Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski, who named himself GM in addition to remaining team president and eventually rebuilt the franchise.
Rosenthal

A potential replacement for Thomson

The Phillies have a veteran manager sitting in their dugout every night — bench coach Don Mattingly. Rosenthal points out that it’s uncertain if he’d even be interested in the job, especially with his son Preston as the team’s general manager.

The Phillies won 95 and 96 games the past two seasons with essentially the same cast. Like the Mets, they are talented enough to snap out of it. If they don’t, they could replace Thomson with their first-year bench coach, Don Mattingly, who previously managed the Dodgers and Miami Marlins.
It’s not known whether Mattingly would want the job. His son Preston is the Phillies’ GM, creating a potentially awkward situation. Thomson’s staff includes other possible replacements, starting with third-base coach Dusty Wathan.
Rosenthal

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The fans may play a role

Rosenthal noted how fans emptied out of Citizens Bank Park early Saturday night despite the team trailing by just two runs, which is a worse indicator than boos. It suggests the fans either didn’t care or didn’t have any faith in a comeback.

Projecting calm is one of Thomson’s strengths, and the team in December extended him through 2027, partly with that in mind. But owner John Middleton is sensitive to fan reaction. And Dombrowski has shown he will not hesitate to act if he believes a change is necessary.
Rosenthal

Meanwhile, Kyle Schwarber believes the Phillies can play their way out of their slump.

“We always talk about the sense of urgency. The sense of urgency is there,” Schwarber told reporters Sunday. “The want’s there. The desire’s there. The will. And we all believe in ourselves. There’s no doubt in that. Just take it on the chin and keep moving forward.

“It’s a glaring moment just because it’s the start of the year, and no one wants to be in this position to start the year off. But we’ve been in these spots before. This team knows how to fight its way out of holes.”

Alec Bohm traded at the deadline?

With Alec Bohm eligible for free agency after the season and top prospect Aidan Miller waiting in the wings, it wasn’t hard to envision a scenario in which Bohm would be traded. With the Phillies struggling, especially at the plate, could dealing Bohm be a way to shake things up?

It’s unlikely a trade happens this early in the season, but the trade deadline is always looming, even if it’s three months off. Over at ESPN, they took a look at one player from each team they believed could be moved ahead of the deadline, and perhaps it shouldn’t be a surprise whom they picked from the Phillies …

Trade candidate: Alec Bohm (FA)
Likely need: Bench/bullpen
This is another situation with some moving parts. Bohm has been the Phillies’ third baseman since 2020, but he’s heading into free agency and is off to a slow start. (He’s also in an ongoing lawsuit against his parents alleging that they mismanaged his finances, as well as fired his agent, Scott Boras.) Meanwhile, top prospect Aidan Miller is waiting in the wings, except he hasn’t played in the minors because of a back injury. There’s a scenario in which Miller gets healthy, hits his way to the majors and the Phillies trade Bohm to clear room for Miller.
David Schoenfield

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Power rankings free fall

Just like with their place in the NL East standings, the Phillies have been quickly plummeting down various power ranking lists around the country, highlighted by them falling from inside the top 10 to outside the top 20 in just one week at MLB.com

21. Phillies (previously: 9)
The nightmare that the Mets are going through right now has obscured how rough things have been going for the Phillies, who look uninspired, listless and downright old. It’s leading to some Rob Thomson rumblings, but that’s just par for the course in Philadelphia, as is all the booing the team has been hearing lately. But a team with this many veterans always knows there is plenty of time.
Will Leitch

A 12-spot drop is brutal. But, hey, it could be worse — the Mets fell 16 spots.

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