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Philly FOP boss blasts DA Larry Krasner on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show

John McNesby claimed to host Tucker Carlson that Krasner has “decimated” the office he oversees and harbors “great disdain and dislike for law enforcement."

Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner, left, and John McNesby, president of the union that represents police officers in the city.
Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner, left, and John McNesby, president of the union that represents police officers in the city.Read moreStaff

The head of Philadelphia’s police union unloaded a barrage of invective against District Attorney Larry Krasner on national television Thursday, telling host Tucker Carlson on Fox News that Krasner has “decimated” the prosecutor’s office, turned it into the public defender’s office, and harbors “great disdain and dislike for law enforcement.”

“He’s running his own show here, and it’s like a carnival act,” John McNesby, president of Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 5, said of Krasner.

During a four-minute segment on Carlson’s show, McNesby gave voice to a number of familiar criticisms that Krasner’s detractors have leveled against the city’s top prosecutor since his swearing-in last January, such as his firing of 31 prosecutors during his first week and new policies aimed at reducing incarceration.

Krasner’s spokesperson, Ben Waxman, did not respond to requests for comment Friday morning. But Rochelle Bilal, president of the Guardian Civic League, an organization of black police officers that endorsed Krasner during his reform-driven campaign, said that she did not agree that Krasner disliked law enforcement, and that “people need to stop” pointing fingers at one another.

“You can’t just blame one entity, one person, [for] the ills of the city — you just can’t do it,” said Bilal, who is running for sheriff. She added: “The justice system needs to be reformed. When you’re talking about all the situations that happen with people of color, there needs to be reform.”

McNesby’s broadsides are the latest chapter in a relationship that has been contentious since Krasner’s campaign.

In November, the FOP sued Krasner and the city over the district attorneys decision to create a list of cops with potential credibility problems. A month earlier, when Krasner charged ex-Officer Ryan Pownall with murder over an on-duty shooting, McNesby called the decision an “absurd disgrace.” And last March, the two sides got into a public spat over a speech by Krasner to recruits at the Police Academy.

McNesby, during his interview with Carlson, criticized the fact that Krasner’s office pursued fewer cases last year, and several times he mentioned “4,000 felons” being released from prison, an apparent reference to the city’s years-long effort to reduce its jail population. Krasner and other city officials have long contended that the reduction has not caused crime, pointing out that the city’s overall crime levels have simultaneously decreased.

McNesby also said “crime is up” under Krasner, although police statistics show that the city’s violent crime tally — which counts homicides, robberies, rapes, and aggravated assaults — was down 5 percent in 2018 compared to the year before, and overall crime was about level.

It is true that the city recorded more homicides in 2018 than any year since 2007, and that non-fatal shootings in 2018 were higher than any year since at least 2014, police statistics show. Officials including Krasner and Police Commissioner Richard Ross have attributed the spike in homicides, at least in part, to a rise in drug-related killings.

McNesby said Friday that he last spoke with Krasner about a year ago. Asked if the two had maintained any kind of relationship, he said: “No. None at all.”